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Jan. 27th, 2008 | 07:13 am
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Today, I went with my friend to watch "Untraceable," a pretty thought provoking movie I might add. After viewing the film, my friend and I had a pretty deep discussion about the film. Long story short, and for those who did not, do not, will not, watch the film or preview, the film is about a psycho killer who uses the internet to kill his victims.

After watching the film I began to wonder....Have we become so insensitive to violence that we can watch people die, or tune in to a show just to see someone die?

Looking at the history of television and how "reality" shows have flourished more than any other show is....well, disturbing. Then there are shows such as "Cops" where violence is shown and yet they continue to thrive. Even the news continues to show violence regularly and yet, we humnas out of curiosity continue to watch over and over again. How long will it be before "real" killing is shown either on regular broadcast TV or the internet (then again, who is to say it is not already on the internet). I guess, the scariest part of the film is the fact that people actually wanted a "video" of the vioilence occuring...

I don't think I could sit and watch people dying. That was a huge reason why I didn't enlist in the Military service and most of the reason why I do not condone war.

So, what do you folks think?
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pandalamp

From: pandalamp
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
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Well I think the most infamous example of this is what ended up getting Dr. Jack Kavorkian arrested and convicted for several years. He was just let out recently (I think maybe even like last year). He "helped" that guy commit suicide, filmed it and then sent the tape of the whole thing to I believe it was like 60 minutes. It might have been Dateline. But it was definitely one of those big primetime news programs. The reason he was convicted of course was because instead of just helping he actually gave the guy the lethal dose of whatever himself though. So yeah people watched someone die on national television. It's definitely a weird concept.

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hisensei808

From: hisensei808
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
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And that is what I find disturbing. It is one thing to be "curious" but then after you catch a glimpse, would your morals kick in and be like, "oh no, this is all wrong. I can't watch this?" Apparently, for some people it's not.

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pandalamp

From: pandalamp
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 08:08 pm (UTC)
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Yep. I wouldn't want to watch that. When I worked in the Violent Crimes division of the state police I saw quite enough violent things. Now granted I love gory/scary/violent movies and I love tv too. And I'm completely 100% against censorship, but I agree with you that I find it very disturbing that there are people out there that want to watch a real person die. It's a pretty horrible thing to see.

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Sapphire Phoenix

From: sapphire_heaven
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 07:33 pm (UTC)
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I think that the portrayal of violence in movies and other mass media has made the nation become desensitized to how awful and real violence is. Now that movies have added special effects and insane plots for really gruesome horror films, people will compare the seriousness of the violent act to something they have seen in films, and I noticed that when a real killing or violent spree occurs, the newscaster compares it to some movie (like, "you think you would only see this in a movie but..."). People know that most plots in a movie are fake, but I also think that knowing that it is fake gives people the false impression that something like that could not happen in real life. Sometimes movies (or video games, I forgot to add that!) even provide ideas to the criminals, which is an issue when it comes to censorship of violence in the media.

I can't believe how violent some forms of media have become, and I have stopped watching television for the most part because I have no interest in all of these murder-mystery shows that have risen on the charts. "Who did it and how" seems to fascinate people these days as if it's some thrill ride, and people have become so used to this sort of thing that they start to expect it and crave for it.

What I have noticed is that the American media tries to censor out actual real-life killings, such as when Saddam Husain was executed, or even on the "wildest police videos" on Spike TV that showed a scene of a fugitive being fatally hit by a car as he fled across an 8 lane freeway (they stopped the clip a second before the car actually hit him, but the spokes person noted that the car killed him). And my friends watching it with me commented "Why do they end the clip there? We've seen worse in the movies! eh, I'll just go watch it on YouYube"

Hmmm, maybe it has already hit the internet?

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hisensei808

From: hisensei808
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 07:45 pm (UTC)
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And that's my point! I mean, when is enough enough?? If people are just going to say, "why did they stop it there? Ah, I can see it on the internet." That is what I find disturbing. I agree with you on the whole, "movies make things look so real." But in my opinion, a person should still understand that it's a movie, not real life. Real life is a bit more gruesome than what some movie has (hypothetically speaking, of course). The sheer fact that people actually want to see the person die is what I find disturbing about the whole thing. In the film, in just America alone over 17 million people logged in to watch someone die, and that was in less than an hours time. Granted that is "just a film" the fact that people look for things like that on the internet/television, purposefully is what disturbs me and I wonder, when did the moral system falls so low to actually call people dying in real life, "entertainment." One comment from the film that sticks in my head is when the villain states how it won't be long before we can see real life killing on TV and the Net. I can barely watch people getting sliced on film without flinching, but I still know that it is "just a film" and that the people there are not really "dead."

Similar to you, I have stopped watching TV as well. When I do catch a glimpse or two of it, I stand proud of my decision to not watch it for the same reasons you have mentioned!

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Sapphire Phoenix

From: sapphire_heaven
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
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I wouldn't doubt that the time real killings will be aired mainstream is around the corner. Reality shows are making contestants do some pretty nasty things for the sake of entertainment, and I saw on CNN last week that Drew Peterson and his attorney actually considered making a reality show of "win a date with Drew Peterson" (he was the one who was suspected of murdering his third wife, and had a previous wife who mysteriously disappeared). If he, a suspected murder, was thinking about making a dating reality show for people knowing that he might have killed someone, then it makes me wonder what the limits of public endurance is.

I forgot to mention, I can't watch those horror movies either because it makes me nauseous when I see blood and limbs cut off, or even fingernails getting ripped off, it's just too gross for me.

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porcelain ocean

From: porcelain_ocean
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 07:49 pm (UTC)
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My photography class in grade 9 did something like this. We were supposed to watch a cartoon of violence (it was really cartoonlike, but nonetheless) and mark down where we felt the acts fell on the scale of violence 1-5. Me, not having watched much tv at that point in time almost threw up by the end of the 15 minutes, whereas many people said nothing was violent because it was all drawn. I still generally do not watch gory or gruesome movies, I can't stomach it. I don't want to watch something that will supposedly take me away from reality but will make me feel scared or grossed out by the end of it, I'd rather watch something like PS. I love you or 27 Dresses. Typical girl response I know, but still.

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porcelain ocean

From: porcelain_ocean
Date: Jan. 27th, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
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PS. I think I swing quite far onto the "I don't want to see it" side mainly because I've experienced violence first hand and I cannot understand why anyone in their right mind would want to voluntarily choose to see something like that, either in the movies or in real life.

Even now almost a decade later, the smell of blood takes me back to those days and makes me gag. This whole thing is like a slime of devolution and somewhere someone has to say enough is enough.

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mutton_mcnutt

From: mutton_mcnutt
Date: Jan. 28th, 2008 02:07 pm (UTC)
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I couldn't actually watch anyone die - actually. That's a lie. I did watch a couple of people die, but that's only from hospice care (I was a volunteer) and my grandmother.

People other than that, I don't know. I've always had a morbid fascination with death, because I'm of the opinion that there's only one way to come into this earth, but so many ways to go out. Strange, I know. So death in and of itself has always held my interest, but more in a scientific aspect than actually liking watching people die.

And I know this sounds horrible, but it also depends on how that person got to the point of death. If it's in the commission of a crime, driving drunk, etc., I have very little sympathy. But for those that die completely innocently (disease, getting hit by a drunk driver, crossfire), my heart truly goes out to them. Might be a harsh way to look at things, but that's how I see it.

I really didn't answer the question very well. I LOVE talking in circles. :)

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Diego's Lj

From: entropyx
Date: Jan. 28th, 2008 02:26 pm (UTC)
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Well I think it depends... Violence in a Film, Show, book, or a video game is fine as long as on some level you see some sort of consiquence to said violence. Espcecially if your a small kid..

For example i have Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare. It is exactly what it sounds like. A war game thats extremaly relaistic and viseral.

A friend and I talked about it. He told me how he hated games like that. Untill i told him this "Yeah it's violent and relaistic, but it gives me such an appriciation for what soilders are doing out in the middle east." He told me he never thought of it that way. I mean I see the consiquence to it and i appriciate what others who deal with said violence go through. Thus sure i am playing a violent video game i appriciate the consiquence.

Now when people don't put 1 and 1 to gether to get 2 then is when it's scary.

btw i never noticed the CCS layout.. I approve ^^; it sad how much i loved that show ._.'

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